UK changes travel rules again to impose quarantine on European arrivals who had mixed vaccine doses

Sad to read that the UK GOV appear not to be confident of their AZ jab. My wife had one |AZ and then a Pfizer. Now despite paying into the UK Tax system for year as a resident of Germany she is not allowed to go to the UK. I on the other hand am allowed to travel because I had two x Pfizer. Therefore there must be something iffy about the AZ - what a shambles - starting to become a very small little island.

does anyone actually know if when visiting the UK from Denmark for 3 nights, Friday to Monday, if we actually need a fit to fly test or will the day 2 results suffice, i was leaving Stanstead airport yesterday morning and their customer service team there,4 of them, could not answer the question.

Months ago I mentioned that this vaccine malarky was just a money making scam. And reading all your messages above, confirms it. Most people on this site jumped down my throat calling me terrible names - well, I hope you're feeling sorry.

I would be interested to know this too.

This whole scheme is so costly and so unfair. We have just spent over €1000 on Covid tests for three of us travelling to the UK for a family visit and wedding (third time it had been postponed). The costs are outrageous and clearly aimed at filling the coffers of the private healthcare system (this lining the pockets of many politicians and their chums….). Our daughter was made to do 2 tests within the first 6 days and we also had a person call round the house to check she was there on the 4th day of her quarantine. All this because the full 14 days had not passed after her second vaccine. Worth noting that at no point during our trip to and from the UK, did anyone ask to see our vaccine certificates/Green Pass. As for the mixed vaccines rule (which would have applied to her) I have only just read about this - thankfully we are now back home in Italy. However I have also noticed that the tampone costs have increased from €39 to €50 per person! I can imagine there are families who have not been able to reunite this summer because of this prohibitively costly set of hurdles. It’s a poor reflection on the UK government but really not that surprising unfortunately.

Let's face it, all these rules are setup to stop people travelling. The sheer complexity (and cost ) of the UK scheme discourages most people to travel. That's the goal from the government's point of view. Ministers rather be hated (they are anyway) than sitting in the dock for allowing a disease to spread and having done nothing to contain it. And most importantly, from the government's point of view, this pandemonium will be long forgotten when the next election is called up.

If AZ has a taxpayer to thank, it's the American one: the Trump administration funded AZ-Oxford to the tune of US$1.2 bn. As per the EU being "litigant", well, when a provider does not deliver 70% of its contract, there is ground to go to court, isn't it? Especially since we are not talking reports or cement, but billions of dollars worth of life-saving pharmaceutical products. Pfizer and Moderna didn't face the EU in court, because they delivered, and the EU has ordered billions of extra doses with these providers alone, AZ having pushed itself on the blacklist. And, if the AZ vaccine is so marvellous, how come hasn't the UK ordered more of this second rate product for its own population, instead of dumping the UK AZ left-overs on developing countries?

How do they know what vaccines you have had? My pass sanitaire says 2 doses and Moderna but my first does was AZ. Is there something in the QR code that says I hvae had one AZ and one Moderna? I was just starting to plan my trip home to see my parents and now i Have no idea when I can go and see them.

The British taxpayer set up 20 AZ supply lines around the World - which have supplied 97% of all vaccine doses globally. The EU is a customer and litigant and not a supplier.

You either "give" or you "sell at cost", you don't "give at cost"; this lapsus per se reflects the very selfish British attitude towards their vaccine "generosity". By May 2021, the EU had exported 227 million doses to 46 countries (not counting Covax); the UK... is supposed to have begun delivering nine million doses of coronavirus vaccine to "the most vulnerable countries" early August. These are mostly doses of the sub-par Astra Zeneca vaccine that nobody wants anymore and that have to be dumped on developing countries.

Yes I confirm that rule: https://www.ameli.fr/cote-d-or/medecin/actualites/covid-19-qui-est-concerne-par-le-schema-vaccinal-une-seule-dose

I called the "Home Office Self Isolation Hotline" 0800 678 1767 on the UK.GOV website to clarify this rule about the "One vaccination for Covid recovered" travellers. On my pass, it says Dose(s) 1 - Vaccine completed and the person on the line responded by saying I don't need to quarantine. Still haven't book flights and still waiting for CLEAR Verification for this. The whole thing is a complete mess.

The UK government has obviously introduced this change by the back door as there has been absolutely no publicity about in the UK. The whole thing is underhand but that's no surprise from Boris & cohorts. I live in Scotland but have small property in Italy which I have been unable to visit for nearly two years. The bottom line is none of the UK governments want anyone here to travel anywhere & are masters at antagonizing Europe & us. Shocking!

Hello, Concerning the covid vaccination requirements in France, is it the case that only one jab is required when one recovered from covid? I would like to verify this detail ( which I read) as a non-european who would like to travel to France in a few months. Thank you for your comments!

UK may be charging more for tests but they did give a vaccine to the World at cost. Sounds like you should give up on international travel for a bit

You’re right of course Mark. I want to go and see a few friends and family but I don’t need to so am going to delay for the time being. Probably at least until I’m not so angry!

It's politics and has nothing to do anymore with 'fighting the virus'.

I was in the UK for two days (10-12 august) and just returned to France. Before my flight, I had to pay for a 2-day test before getting the Amber Passenger Locator Form from the UK government's website. The test I paid for will not be available until October for two reasons. First, it is one of the cheapest as it cost me about £21. The others I saw on the list were at exorbitant prices (£50, £129, £240, £700, et cetera), and I think France had made the right decision to start charging for the PCR test. It will be unfair to let any British (or other travellers) take these tests for free when they are charging foreigners for them. We are not Muttons! UK's 2 or 8 days tests are now in the form of extortion of the highest order. It takes looking at the government accepted providers to see the scale of what seems like fraudulent charges, which translates to what pro-EU like me are predicting that the UK is a mess since Brexit. There are no regulations whatsoever when it comes to the limited prices to charge for these tests. Second, I was only in the Uk for two days, but I still need to book the test to obtain the passenger locator form to get into the UK. In resume, it means I paid for nothing and wasted my 21-pound sterlings. Another issue is that travelling to the UK at these moments is complete chaos! I wonder whether UK nationals coming into France had to go through similar worst experiences I encountered. It took us less than 50 minutes from CDG to London Heathrow Terminal 2, but it took us about 2 hours to get out of the airport. The queues (because there were two) consecutively) at the passport checking area where I should say in French, INTERMINABLE!!!. I took photos and videos. There was no social distancing, no gaps, and some people did not properly fit their masks on their faces because they proudly exposed their noses. It was a perfect terrain to catch COVID-19! Getting through the first queue took us 50 minutes through endless circles. When we finally got out, I thought it was over. Unfortunately, that little compared to what lay ahead of us. A lady directed us to join the second queue, this time heading towards the e-passport gates. It is sad to say this, but Brexit or no Brexit or Covid or no Covid, I firmly believe the current UK govt is incompetent to lead. I love London so much, but they have turned the city (and country) into a despicable playground. Out of the long list of e-passport gates, only THREE are in service! And these three gates are to serve hundreds of passengers on this queue. Anyone who travels a lot like me to the UK can relate to what happens when some folks' passports will not go through the e-gates, and they will not budge until someone forces them out of this place. Well, we had lots of these people, and they made our waiting for a living hell. When I got out of the airport, I met complainers like me and those who feel that we are lucky not to have stayed longer than those who flow in yesterday or the day before because it was worst then. Some said the airport is short of staff because many refused to come back to worst and some had gone back to studying. I do not blame those who prefer to pursue their education rather than stay put at this kind of job in a country heading down the hill as it seems right now. My return flight on the 12 experienced significant delay because, as the pilot told us later, the relationship between France and the UK has not been a good one since Brexit. They had to go through lots of screening before being allowed to take off. Overall, what is clear is that the UK is utilising this COVID-19 situation as a political weapon to frustrate those from the EU, particularly France. It is sad!

Thanks Simon but not a working proposition to justify the costs of travel!

Two observations. 1. If my understanding is correct, Germany is on the UK’s Green List so no proof of vaccination require, just PCR tests 2 days pre and post arrival. 2 Take a look on your EU Digitale-Zertificate der EU. It’s just got the one QR Code on opening showing you are ‘fully vaccinated’ yes border control can do a bit of scrolling to find the first one but I doubt they will

If you land and leave from one terminal within hours, then you simply transit, never clear customs and do not enter the UK. https://www.gov.uk/guidance/coronavirus-covid-19-safer-air-travel-guidance-for-passengers#transiting-through-england

Yup, I give up as well. I’m just sick to the teeth of the bumbling blonde buffoon and his incompressible, incompetent crew of cronies. I never thought the day would come when I was so disgusted with the behaviour of my home country that I would not want to even visit. I’m also astounded by the acceptance of all this by the Brits and as the months go by this whole thing is starting to look more and more like the Government in V for Vendetta!

Carole What is the matter with the UK and what scientists are they listening to when they make these ridiculous decisions. A new (27 July) British study confirms that the mix of AZ/Pfizer is one of the best and gives above average protection! Introducing a 10 day quarantine is insane. Or is this yet another way of lining the pockets of the Government due to the high price of the vaccines and having to pay for additional accommodation etc. (that is if you have the time to quarantine!), plus the stress it causes! Wake up Britain and give the fully vaccinated a chance to travel freely and visit friends and family. Are the UK going to impose the quarantine on Angela Merkel if she travels there!

The UK rules relate to the first 2 jabs , not the booster jab ( although AZ say no booster jab is needed if both initial jabs were AZ ).

So, we are heading to Rome from San Fransisco on British Air. We have a 1 hour & 20 minute layover in Terminal 5 at Heathrow...Can someone please tell me....do we still need to pre book and pay for the '2 day test'? I am getting mixed messages ... We will be staying in Umbria for 3 months, so we really want to know. We also understand that everything may change for us on August 30. We travel on Sept 1.... Thanks so much!

Thanks for the science! AZ followed by Moderna here with a sore arm and mild headaches after the Moderna lasting about 4 days - a small price to pay for the protection! It still saddens me the level of mistrust there is for vaccination in Germany: I know personally 4 elderly (70+), educated, middle-class, otherwise-healthy people who refuse to be jabbed. I wonder how many of them will be alive in 12 months time?

"The scientific evidence unequivocally shows that boosting with a Pfizer or Moderna vaccine after a single immunisation with the AstraZeneca vaccine induces about 10 times stronger neutralising antibodies than two doses of the AstraZeneca vaccine and is associated with only small increases in transient mild-to-moderate side effects. The European Medicines Agency has said of this heterologous vaccination approach: “There are good scientific grounds to expect this strategy to be safe and effective when applied to vaccination against Covid-19.” Kingston Mills, professor of experimental immunology and academic director of the Trinity Biomedical Sciences Institute at Trinity College Dublin

I think it's about time the EU turned its back on "Little Trump" (he thinks he's Churchill-esque, what a deluded Eton ass!) and his cronies. He will only be taking "Scientific" advice if it fits his warped views - the US have just voted out that kind of egotist and we should treat Boris and his crew with the same skepticism as we did that Buffoon.

Agreed. I don't know what "Scientists" they are taking advice from, but I put money on the AstraZeneca lot, who are miffed because most people in Europe don't want it! ( I had no choice but AstraZeneca for my first, but grabbed the chance for Moderna for my second!)

Does this have to get any more stupid? Scientific evidence suggests that "mix and match" is the best option and now we have, once more, policies that seem to have been dreamed up by the self-serving UK Govt for the sake of some pathetic, populist, political expediency that make no common sense whatsoever. Well, even more reason to ensure the UK does not enjoy my custom - I give up.