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Reader question: Can second-home owners in France claim tax rebates for 2020?

Covid travel restrictions has made it impossible for many to visit property in France, meaning some second homes have stood empty for most or all of 2020. So what does that mean for the property taxes?

Reader question: Can second-home owners in France claim tax rebates for 2020?
A view of the Mediterranean village of Gruissan, near Narbonne, southern France. AFP PHOTO / ERIC CABANIS
 
Question: I was unable to visit my second home in France all last year due to Covid travel restrictions. Can I claim a rebate on the 2020 housing taxes?
 
Many second home owners have been prevented from visiting their house in France since the pandemic began last spring, due to the strict rules regulating international travel which remain in place for many countries.

IN DETAIL The rules for travelling into France from within the EU

Even so, the property tax rules remains unchanged for second homeowners, which means those in possession of an empty house in France will have to to pay their housing taxes as usual.
 
France has two types of property taxes: taxe d’habitation and taxe foncière. The taxe d’habitation is the tax paid by the person(s) residing in the house, while the taxe foncière is paid by the owner.
 
 
While the taxe d’habitation has disappeared for most people, second homeowners still have to pay it – even if their house has stood empty throughout the pandemic.
 
There are only a few ways second homeowners can escape the taxe d’habitation, as outlined on the government’s website:
  • If your job obliges you to stay in your second home due to its proximity to the workplace;
  • If you had to move into a a long term care home and your former main residence became your secondary one;
  • If your second home is inhabitable due to circumstances beyond your control (such as renovation needed to make the place habitable).

EXPLAINED: Who has to make a tax declaration in France in 2021?

If, however, you simply have been shut out of France due to travel restrictions imposed to halt the spread of Covid-19, you will still have to pay the tax.

The taxe foncière also remains in place as normal. However, remember that over-75s can get refunds on this tax in some cases. For details on that, see the government’s website (HERE).

 
 

Member comments

  1. I can accept the two property taxes ,but , it’s a bit annoying to pay the separate bin charge when not using the service !

  2. Perhaps you can write a letter asking for a reduction. On the other hand, small villages do not have many sources of income.
    We were helped by the ladies of the Tresorerie Publique when we paid our housing taxes.
    Due to all the travel restrictions we had stayed in France instead of going back to the Netherlands. In January when we did go back for a short visit, we found letters from the French tax people. Because we had not paid on time, repeatedly (we hadn’t seen the letters!) we had to pay fines. Paying at the Tresorerie, my husband explained that due to Covid restrictions we had been unable to pay. The lady consulted her colleagues, told my husband to wait as she phoned the tax people; they agreed to scrap the fines and told her how to write a short letter by hand for my husband, which he signed and she would send to the tax people. A month later we received a confirmation that the fines had been waived.
    I cannot imagine such service taking place in my home country.

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‘Be ready to wait’: Your tips for getting a French visa post-Brexit

Now that Britain is out of the EU, just how much harder is the process of moving to France from the UK after Brexit? British readers share their experiences of applying for visas as 'third country nationals’.

'Be ready to wait': Your tips for getting a French visa post-Brexit

Whether you’re moving to France to live, or you’re a second-home owner wanting to spend more than 90 days out of every 180 in France, if you’re British you will now need a visa.

You can find more on how to apply for a visa, and how to understand what type of visa you need, in our visa section HERE.

But how these systems work in practice is not always the same as the theory.

To learn more about the process of getting a visa as a UK national, The Local asked British readers for their experiences of going through the system.

The consensus among respondents was that the whole thing was bureaucratic, though there were notable differences in experiences that ranged from the “easy” to the “complicated” and “time-consuming”, while the advice for future applicants was, routinely, have all your paperwork ready – and be prepared for a lengthy wait at one of the UK’s TLS centres

Appointments

Like most visas, French visas for UK nationals must be applied for before you leave home. You can find a full explanation of the process here, but the basic outline is that you apply for the visa online, and then have an in-person appointment in the UK in order to present your paperwork. 

Sue Clarke told us: “As long as you get all your paperwork together correctly and in the right order, the time it takes to receive your passport back with the visa in it once TLS has sent it off is only a few days.

“TLS – the centre which works on behalf of the French Embassy to collate your application – is so very busy,” she added. “That part of the process took hours even when you have an appointment.”

READ ALSO EXPLAINED: What type of French visa do you need?

“The visa process itself was fairly well run, and a decision for the initial visa was quick,” wrote Ian Sheppard, who successfully applied for a visa in July 2022. 

“Although getting the follow up residence permit was a pain, [and] took longer than expected, and there was little to no communication with severely limited ways to get in touch about the application.”

Sheppard thought that, biometrics apart, the process could have taken place online, and wondered whether the follow-up residence permit application could be more closely linked to the initial visa application, “rather than effectively submitting the same application twice”.

Georgina Ann Jolliffe described the process as “stressful”. 

“A lot of the initial stage was unclear and I needed a lot of reassurance about the visa trumping the Schengen 90 days. (The Local helped on that one),” she wrote. 

“[The] lack of ready communication was very stressful. It could be slicker, however staff at Manchester TLS were excellent.”

Jacqueline Maudslay, meanwhile, described the process as “complicated”, saying: “The waiting times for the appointment with the handling agent (TLS in the UK) are long and difficult to book online. We applied for a long-stay visa and were given a short-stay visa, with no reasoning and no option of talking to anyone.  

“We had met every criteria for the long-stay visa. There needs to be a contact link with the French Consular website directly for discussing visa applications.”

Handling agent TLS’s website – the first port of call for applicants from the UK – was a target for criticism.

“The TLS system is probably the most user unfriendly system I have ever used,” wrote Susan Kirby. “It throws up errors for no legitimate reason and even changes data you have keyed in. Dates are in American format so you have to be very careful and it can be very difficult to edit.”

Bea Addison, who applied for a visa in September 2021 with a view to retiring in France, agreed that it was complicated and believes the French system is chaotic and badly organised compared to other countries. “Even staff in the French Embassy in London were not knowledgeable of the process and documentation,” she wrote.

“The renewal in France was applied for in July 2022 … we have received an attestation that we will be granted renewal visas, which expired in October 2022, but we have not yet received a date to attend the préfecture due to a backlog.

Second-home owners

Many of our survey respondents were not moving to France, but were instead second-home owners who did not want to be constrained by the 90-day rule.

They have the option of remaining residents of the UK and applying for a short-stay French visitor visa – which must be renewed every year.

Second-home owner Peter Green told us: “Our appointment with TLS was delayed by two and a half hours and the whole experience was chaotic.

“We now have to go through exactly the same process again to get a visa for 2023. With second-home owners there should be a fast track that just involves proving financial viability, nothing else has changed. The system needs to be fully computerised.”

Second-home owner Alan Cranston told us his application met with no problems, but came with “unwanted cost and effort”. 

“Our six-month visa was for our first stint at our house in France in the spring, and that then overlapped our second visit in the autumn which was under Schengen. How that is handled seems to be a muddle (we did not leave the country for a day at the end of the six months, as some advise),” he said. 

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