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‘I love France, I love your wine’: Trump’s bizarre first phone call with Hollande

US president Donald Trump told France's former head of state François Hollande that he "loved France, French people and French wine" before asking for his help in a bizarre phone call shortly after being elected, a former Elysée aide has revealed.

'I love France, I love your wine': Trump's bizarre first phone call with Hollande
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The strange conversation between the pair was detailed in a new book by Gaspard Gantzer, an advisor to Hollande during his time in the Elysée Palace.
 
According to Gantzer, Trump called Hollande on November 11th last year two days after his shock election victory over Hillary Clinton.
 
When Hollande picked up the phone Trump said: “Mister President, I am delighted to talk to you. You are a great president, a great leader, a great man. It is such an honour.”
 
Hollande is reportedly left in silence. Given he was used to hearing how he was France's most unpopular president in history, it's no surprise he was left stunned by Trump's eulogizing.
 
After a few seconds of silence the advisor says Trump started his ode to France.
 
“I love France, I love French people, I love your country, I love Paris, I love your wine, I love…” said Trump before Hollande cut him off.
 
“It was clear, Donald Trump was mocking us. He was taking us for idiots,” wrote Gantzer. Trump's words were in contrast to those adopted during a campaign speech when he said: “I wouldn't go to France. France is no longer France.”
 
 
Hollande then tried to steer the conversation towards more serious matters and listed a series of issues that the countries must work together on, such as the fight against terrorism, the war in Syria and Iraq, as well as putting the Paris climate deal into action.
 
Trump apparently responded: “Everything you want” before a long “yeaaaahhhh”, Gantzer said. Trump has since signaled his intention to pull the US out of the Paris climate deal, much to the anger of Hollande's successor Emmanuel Macron.
 
The advisor said the conversation then took another bizarre twist when Trump asked Hollande for advice “three times” on who to include in his new government.
 
“You know my country. You know many great Americans. And you are one of the greatest leaders in the world, so let me ask you a question: could you help me with the recruiting of my new staff. I need recommendations.”
 
Gantzer said that Trump “was making so much fun of them it became funny.”
 
He said when Hollande had finally put the phone down, everyone in the room was aghast, not least the former French president. But he did not include what Hollande said.
 
The official report of the phone call was slightly different to Gantzer's account.
 
After the call the Elysée's press team announced the pair had “stressed their willingness to work together” and they had talked of the common issues their country's shared “to clarify their positions”.
 
“They also stressed to each other the values the two countries have in common, the friendship between France and the United States.”
 
Trump visited Paris in July when he was wined and dined by Macron at a top restaurant on the first floor of the Eiffel Tower before being the special guest at the Bastille Day parade on the Champs-Elysées.
 
 
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ENERGY

EXPLAINED: Why are French energy prices capped?

As energy prices soar around Europe, France is the notable exception where most people have seen no significant rise in their gas or electricity bills - so what lies behind this policy? (Hint - it's not just that the French would riot if their bills exploded).

EXPLAINED: Why are French energy prices capped?

On most international comparisons of rising energy prices, France is the outlier – but the government control of energy prices is not in fact a new policy and was in place well before the Russian invasion of Ukraine sent gas and electricity prices soaring.

At present prices for domestic gas are frozen at 2021 levels and electricity prices can only increase four percent per year. According to economy minister Bruno Le Maire, without these measures French bills would have risen by 60 percent for gas and 45 percent for electricity.

Both these measures – collectively known as the bouclier tarifaire (tariff shield) – are in place until at least the end of 2022, and could be extended into 2023.

The extension of the price shield was confirmed by parliament earlier in August – part of a €65 billion package of measures aimed at tackling the cost-of-living crisis – but had been in place for much longer.

Tariff shield

The reason that gas prices are frozen at 2021 levels is that the freeze came into effect on November 1st 2021 – well before Russia’s February 2022 invasion of Ukraine.

The measure was initially put in place to help people deal with the economic after-effects of the pandemic, but was extended in the spring of 2022, when electricity prices were also capped at four percent.

Price regulation

But although prolonged price freezes are unusual, the French government involvement in price-setting is completely normal and during non-freeze periods, a rate is set each month.

If you read French media (or The Local), you’ll notice regular articles on ‘what changes next month’ which include gas and electricity prices, usually expressed as a month-on-month percentage rise or fall. This refers to the maximum rate that utility companies are allowed to increase their charges per month.

The government-set rate refers to the basic price plan from EDF. Some people are on special deals or time-limited tariffs, so if their deal or payment plan ends and they go back onto the basic rate, they can see a rise above the government rate.

Around 85 percent of households in France get their electricity from EDF. 

READ MORE: Reader Question: Why did my French electricity bill increase by more than 4%

State-owned utilities

So, why is the government involved? Well, it’s the majority stakeholder in EDF, the country’s largest electricity supplier, and owns Gaz de France (Engie). 

At present EDF isn’t completely state owned – although there are plans to fully nationalise it – but it owns 84 percent.

The French state owns a lot of service and utility companies including the country’s rail provider SNCF, postal service La Poste and France Télévisions. One notable exception is the country’s autoroutes, which are run by private companies, although the government sets limits on toll charges. 

Nuclear 

France is less exposed to energy shocks than some other European countries because of its nuclear sector.

It is unusual among European nations in the size of its nuclear industry – around 70 percent of electricity comes from its own domestic nuclear power plants, although during the heatwave several plants have had to lower output as rivers have become too hot to effectively cool the reactors. There are also ongoing technical issues that have seen some of the older plants shut down or forced to lower output.

READ ALSO Why is France so obsessed with nuclear?

France is usually a net exporter of electricity, but at peak times it has to import electricity, usually via the high-priced international spot market.

It does, however, import its gas, mostly via pipeline – in 2020 its biggest supplier was Norway, followed by Russia.

The French government has launched a sobriété energetique (energy sobriety) plan to cut its total energy consumption by 10 percent this year, which it hopes will allow it to get through the winter without Russian gas. 

Riots

Even before the recent €65 billion aid package, the French government was taking a pro-active role in helping people deal with rising prices – from the price shield to fuel rebates for drivers, €100 grants for low-income households and financial aid for industries such as agriculture and logistics so they could avoid passing prices on the consumers.

Cynics say this happened for two reasons – because there were elections in April and June and because the French would riot if their utility bills suddenly doubled.

There’s a kernel of truth in both – cost of living became a major issue in the April presidential elections and one that far-right leader Marine Le Pen very much made her own from early in the campaign, leaving Emmanuel Macron slightly on the back foot, although in truth his government had already introduced several measures to ease the burden on ordinary voters.

It’s also true that the French have a robust approach to holding their government to account, and high living costs have previously inspired noisy and sometime violent protests – the ‘yellow vest’ movement of 2018 and 19 began as a protest over living costs.

But it’s also true that the French State is generally quite involved in people’s everyday lives – as evidenced by those monthly gas and electricity price rates – and taking a laissez-faire approach such as that seen in the UK would be unusual for any French government, even outside of election season.

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