France and Germany seek new rules for spying

No spying on the mobile phones of any heads of state, could perhaps be rule number one. After a week of revelations about the extent of US snooping on its European allies, France and Germany want talks to agree new rules for intelligence relations with the United States.

France and Germany seek new rules for spying
No spying on leader's mobiles. Will this be one of the new rules over the spying on allies demanded by France and Germany when they meet the US for talks? Photo: Dano/flickr

France and Germany said on Friday they would be seeking talks with the US to define new rules over spying. It comes after a week of revelations that included claims the US spied on 70 million French phone calls in one month as well as the German chancellor's moile phone.

The leaders of the 28-state European Union "took note of the intention of France and Germany to seek bilateral talks with the United States" on what their secret services should and cannot do, EU President Herman Van Rompuy told a press conference after a first night of summit talks.

The demand from Berlin and Paris, on the back of anger in Brazil and Mexico at agents listening in on their leaders' calls too, comes "with the aim of finding before the end of the year an understanding on mutual relations in that field".

Van Rompuy said other countries could join Berlin and Paris should they wish in seeking this trust-based "understanding" with the United States "before the end of the year" in the field of intelligence gathering.

In a statement in the early hours, the leaders of the 28-state EU "underlined the close relationship between Europe and the USA and the value of that partnership".

They "expressed their conviction that the partnership must be based on respect and trust, including as concerns the work and cooperation of secret services".He added: "Of course the UK has a special relationship … but they are completely on board."

Citing "deep concern among European citizens" after fresh newspaper revelations in Britain claiming 35 international leaders had private calls monitored like Merkel, Van Rompuy said that intelligence-gathering remains a vital element in the fight against terrorism.

French President Francois Hollande told reporters that a special European cell was already set up to deal with a wave of disclosures concerning America's ultra-secret National Security Agency from fugitive ex-intelligence contractor Edward Snowden.

These experts have to "accelerate their work with our American allies", Hollande said, because "this is a subject which is not going away.

"We know there will be more revelations," he signalled.

Italian Prime Minister Enrico Letta denied tensions with Britain amid reports of intra-EU espionage – Cameron exiting the summit venue without speaking to waiting media.

But Van Rompuy stressed that the new understanding the Europeans want "applies to relations between European countries as well as to relations with the US".

He underlined: "A lack of trust could jeopardise the necessary cooperation in the field of intelligence gathering."

Partnership with Washington "must be based on respect and trust – including as concerns the work and cooperation of secret services".

Merkel meanwhile told a press conference that she did not agree with suggestions the EU should suspend flagship free-trade talks with Washington as a penalty for the intelligence breach of trust.

"When you leave the room, you have to work out how to get back," Merkel said of the dangers that could pose.

The European Parliament has already asked for a key EU-US bank data-sharing deal aimed at fighting terrorism to be suspended.

The summit Friday is supposed to tackle an immigration crisis highlighted by the deaths of hundreds of desperate refugees trying to reach Europe's shores but the spying scandal could easily take the headlines again as more revelations come through.

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‘We have a lot to do’: Macron congratulates Joe Biden on winning US presidential election

French President Emmanuel Macron on Saturday congratulated US president-elect Joe Biden and his running mate Kamala Harris on their election victory.

'We have a lot to do': Macron congratulates Joe Biden on winning US presidential election
Joe Biden. AFP

“The Americans have chosen their president,” said Macron

“We have a lot to do to overcome today's challenges. Let's work together!” Macron tweeted, in French and English, after major US media networks announced Biden's victory over incumbent Donald Trump.

Macron has never met Biden, who will in January become the 46th president of the United States.

France under Macron is keen for Europe to move away from its reliance on US military might, for defence in particular.

Paris Mayor Anne Hidalgo reacted to Biden's win by saying “Welcome back America”.


Foreign Minister Jean-Yves Le Drian on Thursday reinforced recent statements from Paris that the nature of US-EU relations had permanently changed under Trump.

Europe needs to build a “new trans-atlantic relationship, which is a new partnership” irrespective of who wins, he said then.

“We cannot go back to the status quo ante, to a kind of good old days in the trans-atlantic relationship,” as Europe affirms its sovereignty in security, defence and strategic autonomy, Le Drian added.

Apart from the far right, the French political class generally hailed Biden's victory at the polls, which saw him win more votes than any other US president in history.

Former French president Francois Hollande, who was in office when Trump came to power in 2016, welcomed the “good news for American democracy”.

Biden has promised to return the United States to the Paris Climate Agreement after Trump pulled out of it.

Hollande hailed the “happy news for the planet with the return of United States in the climate agreement”.